These cookies track visitors across websites and collect information to provide customized ads. I ADORE Charlie Dates. 3658 SOUTH WENTWORTH AVENUE, CHICAGO, IL, 60609, 773-268-6048 | INFO@PROGRESSIVECHICAGO.ORG. It does not store any personal data. Datess 100-year-old congregation only began affiliating with the SBC last year, joining as a dual affiliate with the Progressive National Baptist Convention, a mainline, African American denomination. Opinion: What is Revivaland is it Happening at Asbury? Let us know how we can pray for you and your family. No. To invite Dr. With teary eyes, I just told them I hope that they accept my recommendation when that time comes. It took a while for it to reimagine and revitalize and become relevant again. In just our brief 15 minute interaction, he really ministered to me as he correctly sensed I was going through a season of loss that was challenging my faith. I adore Charlie Dates BECAUSE of how he and his wife PERSONALLY ministered to me when I needed it. Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. Charlie Dates is set to succeed Rev. Dates also is an affiliate professor at Baylor Universitys George W. Truett Theological Seminary in Texas and at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Illinois, according to his bio. You know, at one point, Progressive had the strongest and largest Christian discipleship ministry in the city. It's to multiply in every generation and right now the church in Chicago needs fresh dynamic trained Gospel fire leaders. In a video message to Progressive, Dates said the two churches will stay distinct, though hell pastor them both. He graduated with a PhD in historical theology from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School. There is no such thing as the Old Southern Baptists.. Dates holds a Bachelor's Degree in Speech Communication & Rhetoric from the University of Illinois - Champaign, Urbana, where he met his wife, Kirstie, who not only changed his life, but also elevated his approach to living. But we can actually press into the current culture and lead our young people and train them to lead a revolution for the kingdom and the glory of God. You've read 0 of 5 of todays most popular posts. Respect and admire if they are capable, yes. "It's Alright to Cry"| Pastor Charlie Dates | Progressive Chicago by Pastor Charlie Dates. To donate, click here. Your daily news briefing from the editors of CT: After Chaos and Crisis, Beth Moore Still Finds Refuge in the Church, Christian Conservationists Sue to Protect Ghana Forest, I Was the Proverbial, Drug-Fueled Rock and Roller, Everything Everywhere All at Once and the Beautiful Mystery of Gods Silence. From 2016 to 2019, too, I preached on the campuses of four of the SBC seminaries and had been invited to another. Dr. Charlie Dates is widely invited to preach at churches, conferences and universities throughout the United States. The average member was around before Charlie (hes been there ~10 years) and knows hes not the only one who can lead them. Its time for Salem to move forward, he told his congregants. Wests The Church Without Walls (originally Brookhollow Baptist Church) has ranked among the 100 biggest in the country and averages 9,000 people in weekly attendance, according to its site. Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. He opposed the legalization of gay marriage,called for a boycott over funding disparities at Chicago Public Schools, and once served as spiritual adviser to disgraced R&B singer R. Kelly. As I prayed about it, I got no inkling that it was time, just yet, to walk away from Progressive. He is a contributing author to the 2014 book Letters To A Birmingham Jail, and the 2019 book, Say It: Celebrating Expository Preaching in The African American Tradition. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. Sign up now ! Rev. Now we have 2 churches thinking only one particular man can lead them. I like my pastor; I dont love him. No matter what age, PBC Kids offers fun, age-appropriate programming that help your children connect with God. Meeks, a former state senator, founded Salem Baptist 38 years ago. That is absolutely a legitimate human need but I just dont see it as within the job description of a servant-leader of men in the Epistles. The two churches will remain separate, and he plans on preaching two sermons each Sunday. I left that conference feeling hopeful. Meeks, 65, founded Salem in 1985 and grew it from 200 to 10,000 members. Come stop by the north lobby to have your picture and/or video taken on March 19th and the 26th directly following service, As our church family continues to grow, we want to welcome our new members home. In 2011, at age 30, Rev. Thats their choice. Saddleback Church doubles down on support for female pastors, Mormonisms slow shift away from demonizing working mothers, Faith leaders urge Biden to sign executive order for reparations study by Juneteenth, For many congregations, wiping out medical debt has become a popular calling. When we make one man or woman our everything, bad things are bound to happen. The views expressed in this commentary do not necessarily reflect those of Religion News Service. He announced in June that he will give his last sermon on January 8, 2023. Stephanie Martin, a freelance writer and editor in Denver, has spent her entire 30-year journalism career in Christian publishing. Also, while there are many people in the comment section who rightfully call him to repent over it, there are plenty of others, including names such as Lecrae and Kyle J Howard, who tweeted their approval of his use of the slur. I was shocked, but not surprised, when Mohler endorsed President Trump and watched the two men on Reformation Day celebrate each other on Twitter. To correct us from repeating errors and to inspire and to encourage us to pursue Gods great promise. Charlie Dates serves as the senior pastor at Progressive Baptist Church and teaches at Moody Bible Institute as an adjunct professor. So it is Biblical for a leader to have a large flock. Neither am I saying that hes the only significant influence in my life. So he is going to pastor two large churches in addition to teaching at several colleges. Last month, Dates joined the Stetzer ChurchLeaders Podcast to talk about the need for solid Christian preaching during tough times. I had the privilege of not only hearing him preach as a guest speaker at my church, but also meeting him after a singles event hosted by Progressive. He holds a PhD in Historical Theology from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School. In 1998, Meeks led a push to close 26 liquor stores in a 19-block radius near Salem. But there are others who sit close to power within the SBC and who are silent against the racism that plagues their own congregations. Everybody loves our old, respected leaders but I want to set an example that its okay to give the next generation an opportunity, Meeks adds. Chicago has rich Black churches throughout the South and West sides, in particular. Not able to make? And I dont even go to Progressive, which is less than 15 minutes from my home (closer than my current church home). Meeks, a former state senator, founded Salem Baptist 38 years ago. "I sense God performing a work of His Spirit that connects Salem to churches that need revitalization. He served three terms as an Illinois state senator, was chairman of the state board of education, and ran in Chicagos 2011 mayoral race. We want to see our church grow. His decision came two days after West made a similar argument in a Baptist Standard op-ed. Dates called him an Uncle Ruckus on twitter, which is a derogatory slur used to describe a black man that embraces the whiteness of society instead of resisting it. When I came to Progressive, it took me a while to actually get my feet under me because of some of the history and nature of the church, and it required a lot of patience and long-suffering initially. Just goes to show that even in this day and age, after all thats happened, megachurches still value butts in the seats and the almighty dollar over holding celebrity pastors accountable for their actions and character. Charlie Dates is set to succeed Rev. We are partnering with The Chicago Partnership to present this opportunity to the South Side! If thats idolatry to youwe can disagree. Brian Dr. Charlie Edward Dates is Senior Pastor at Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago, IL. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Progressive Baptist Church of Chicago, under the leadership of Charlie E. Dates, is a. Its more than just Progressive and Salem. Progressive is a church of five generations. But it would be foolish to assume its humanly possible to do this in and of myself. I need to say that this is not an ambition of mine. Analytical cookies are used to understand how visitors interact with the website. Progressive Service Time 9:30am 3658 S Wentworth Ave, Chicago Coming Up. I think history, much like the end of Romans, is meant to teach us what God can do. Children are a gift from God. After 11 years at Progressive and watching more than 1,000 people join that church in that time, its fair to say that I carry the DNA of both churches. That was the message Sunday from the Rev. Learn more. To donate, becoming Progressives youngest-ever senior pastor, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, Chicago Unity Service Brings Together Christians Across Ethnic Lines, Chicago Pastor James Meeks Bids Tearful Farewell After 38 Years at Salem Baptist, Tennessee Charity Walk to Fund Needed Wells Persists Despite Rainy Conditions, Eden Village Ministry Aims to End Homelessness Through Tiny Home Communities, Gateway Seminary to Fund Short-Term Mission Trips for All Students, Vineyard Pastor Resigns, Wont Cooperate With Probe Into Sons Alleged Misconduct, Why Businessman Peter Chung Matters for the Future of The Kings College. Dates, 41, is a graduate of Salem's now-closed Salem Christian Academy. The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. And Saddleback Church founder Rick Warren is retiring this September. These have been disciple-making churches with an emphasis on Christian education. The leaders of two majority-black megachurches in major cities announced this week that they will no longer affiliate with the Southern Baptist Convention. Join us before worship service on Sunday, March 19th directly following service. Perspective by Charlie Dates. Dr. Charlie E. Dates currently serves as the Senior Pastor of Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago, Illinois as well as Affiliate Professor of Trinity Evangelical Divinity School and NFL Chaplain for the Chicago Bears. He continued his education with a Master of Divinity and a PhD in Historical Theology from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Deerfield, Illinois. Hmm. Here it was, I thought, further proof that the old SBC was fading. I will admit to knowing very little about Charlie Dates, but what Gus Chiggins posted is extremely concerning. Gleannings aggregates what others are reporting. There is a HUGE problem with adoring a pastorany pastor, even a truly great one. I understand both sides, but havent thought about it enough to have a strong opinion, probably because I dont use those terms. I completely understand your concern, Tricia. How do Salem Baptist and Progressive Baptist compare, and what makes you a fit for both congregations at this moment? Chuck Smith himself, who started out as every kind of salt and light, found himself tempted by the limelight as he got bigger and bigger, and we saw more and more of his flaws as time went on. To invite Dr. Before his call to Progressive, he served as an apprentice pastor at New Zion Baptist Church in Rockford, Illinois, and as a pastor at Salem Baptist Church in Chicago. Dr. Charlie Dates . So, I propose to you that we need a new organism, not led in full by white men; a Christian collective that makes room for the essentials of the faith and the diversity of the Church; a robust engine that finances the impoverished sides of the Church, speaks justice courageously to the government and cares gently for the oppressed, marginalized and women. I respect the importance of Christian denominations, the accountability and resources they provide for the larger body. Not because of a sermon I heard from a distance or book that I read.. Both of them have produced some stalwart Christian leaders and teachers. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! I would caution ANYONE who makes ANYONE their everytying including a spouse or child. If Charlie Dates indeed used a racial slur (just last year), that does call into fitness his ability to do any of the above. Progressive Baptist Church is part of the Organizations industry, and located in Illinois, United States. Sign up for our newsletter: We meet every second Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 9:00 am. They do not understand themselves to be beneficiaries of a system that marginalizes people of color.". Logos of the six Southern Baptist Convention seminaries. Services Progressive Baptist Church SUNDAYS AT PROGRESSIVE We'd love for you to join us at our Sunday Services! And the same for Salem, which might still have it. To a visitor entering the Northwest Church of Christ in Chicago, Illinois, on a recent Sunday, the assembly might have sounded like, The Rev. If, however, I fail to get the churches to see that our history serves our present and inspires our future, then Im in trouble. Last month, in a joint statement and individual remarks, the six presidents of SBC seminaries called critical race theory unbiblical and instead emphasized the need to turn to Christian teachings alone, not secular ideas, to confront racism. SBC events and church planting have grown more diverse over the past decade as leaders made a concerted effort to feature and invest in non-Anglo pastors. But what is liberal in the history of American Christianity? In a video of the announcement, Meeks said after he and his wife fasted and prayed about the succession of the ministry, they felt confident in selecting Dates. Salem has not lost its relevance, Salem has not lost its edge, while maintaining a very high view of Scripture and its very Christo-centric approach to ministry. Who thinks a half a pastor can shepherd a full church adequately?. He shared a vision of revival. Its humorous, its rewarding, and its worth more than the price of gold or platinum. These cookies help provide information on metrics the number of visitors, bounce rate, traffic source, etc. "We want to see our church be vibrant. I just checked and you can still see the tweet for yourself, he refused to delete it. Some in our ranks inappropriately use the label of CRT! to avoid legitimate questions or as a cudgel to dismiss any discussion of discrimination. Their seminaries have hosted outstanding guest faculty and chapel speakers outside of their norm. Thats the good ol boys club. That would just be weird. Charlie Dates and Ralph D. West spoke out in response to a controversial statement released by seminary presidents. Chicago needs the Black church to be her best and brightest self. . Thanks for the extra info here. To them, a belief in a high view of Scripture must mean an adaptation of Republican politics and, with it, the dismissal of critical race theory and intersectionality because of a fear of liberalism. That said, our church has just as high a view (if not higher) of Scripture as any SBC church, but theirs is an inconsistent epistemology. Its kind of like a kid learning a language; when youre immersed in the language, no one has to tell you what words mean and what signals mean.. They are ready to send their young students to the very seminaries that are both vestiges of racial animus and also the places where these harmful attitudes are perpetuated. 11,909 were here. He also teaches at Wheaton College and has delivered chapel sermons at various institutions, including The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. Sad, but not at all surprising. I see the Pauline example in the Gospel of teachers/leaders being figures that we seek and respect for guidance and direction and boundaries, and not necessarily the same functions that friends and family (in or outside of the church) perform. And God has blessed us with our own son as the churchs next pastor. Progressives buildings were built without a dime of debt at a time where Black people could not get a loan from a bank. Theres something about the formation of my mind and my theological heart that is directly shaped by and impacted by watching all of that, and working in all of that, as I came of age, he said.