MSNBC political analyst David Jolly, a former Republican congressman who is no longer affiliated with the GOP, joins Joy Reid with his analysis. Three years ago, I was a sitting Republican member of Congress who took to the House floor and called on then-candidate Donald Trump to drop out of the presidential race over his proposal to ban immigrants and asylum-seekers based on their religious faith. As a Republican, I was in favor of climate science, gun control, campaign finance reform and sympathetic to abortion rights. Also resulted in Sarah Palin losing that congressional race. And I think that thats the case for a lot of people who are drawn to third parties, which is that you are drawn to the Libertarian Party. Parents worried about white high schools than Black Lives Matter protest God bless you. Get Notified of Media Appearances, Writings & Special Events They include Rick Wilson, who helped create The Lincoln Project, an organization made up of Never Trump Republicans who run ads against the president. So its not I mean, Im getting animated over like a rationale I know you dont actually believe in. You either support Trump or you oppose him. Were 30th in the world at public education, clean drinking water, life expectancy, infant mortality. A big thank you to all of you for having us. Others mentioned have included U.S. House members Val Demings, Stephanie Murphy and Charlie Crist, former Congresswoman Gwen Graham, state Sen. Lauren Book of Plantation, Tampa Mayor Jane Castor and St. Petersburg Mayor Rick Kriseman. Those voters are available to those parties. I have to admit, I get very frustrated when Democrats act as if theyre the defending democracy party when theyll do things like elevating an election-denying extremist against Peter Meijer, who voted to impeach Trump. But even on a couple of the issues that you raised, whether its public education or climate change or issues like abortion, which has become in many states a new area of division, there are lots of things where people are not going to be able to find common ground on. So it aggravates me. David Jolly on RNCs message: Trump is telling white people that Black people are coming for you, CPAC highlights grifter, huckster wing of the Republican Party, Medication abortion becomes new battleground, imperiling other aspects of health care, Swell of public support buoys New College students resisting DeSantis, Friday Nightcap: Winners & losers of the week, Rep. Colin Allred blasts Rep. Jim Jordan's 'tin foil hat' subcommittee. See, third parties, for many reasons, havent gotten very far when it comes to actually getting things done on the national stage. Im sitting next to a guy who made the word math trend, OK? So how do you think about those issues? And when you look at the third-party movements of the past number of years, first let me be the first to say that if the role of the Forward Party is to drive better action and policy and behavior from the existing parties, that is a victory. But I was also for less taxes, less regulation and some very basic business sense of governing, which made me a very bad Democrat. The emergence of conservatism to the Tea Party to angry populism didnt create attrition in the Republican Party. Where do I exercise the balance? Jolly, who represented a Florida district from 2014 until 2017, has been a frequent Trump critic. ' book revels in his record of snubbing health recommendations to curb the spread of COVID-19. And understand the nuance of that, right? He is the chairman of the Serve America Movement. This is how I exercise my politics. David Jolly - Sports Programming Supervisor - North Carolina State Todays episode is a little different. 'You can't be never-Trump and be a Republican:' Why this former . Jolly, 32, has focused her political interests on a website devoted to her love of family, politics, food and pets. Non-partisans are reticent to back minor party candidates for fear of wasting their votes. We have to get money out of politics to the extent possible. There is a plurality of the country that just wishes to solve issues for the American people. I was just duped into this binary choice of pro-life and pro-choice. And we could do that for lots of local offices. Former Republican Congressman David Jolly dispelled the GOP stereotype applied to Black Lives Matter with one simple statement. Im going to suggest thats a flawed outlet. HuffPost's top politics stories, straight to your inbox. And its not actually around ideology. And he demonstrates that you can have an independent whos competitive in a state that Trump won by 21 points that people think of as noncompetitive if you have a different positive, unifying message and candidacy. Anyone can read what you share. And so to your point, and this is incredibly important, because I particularly on the issue of abortion and life, there are millions of Americans who want to exercise their politics in a very specific direction as part of a very specific coalition. David Jolly For Governor? Former Representative May Run As An I wrestle with that on a daily basis, Jolly said earlier this month from a landline in his mountain home. My question would be, I guess, with regarding election reform. Podcasts(VideoAudio). You are also agreeing to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. But Jolly is a free agent. To ruthlessly pursue economic policies that exacerbate class disparity and needlessly limit opportunity for the least fortunate among us, while enriching the wealthiest and rewarding large donors, reflects not a spirit of humanity, but a spirit of both greed and spite. The state needs leaders willing to compromise, he said, who put people over partisanship. And thank you to The Texas Tribune for having us. Since it costs so much to run for office with the Forward Party or any other parties involved, how do you think that would change regarding people running for office, and if it would encourage more opportunities for people that cant afford to do so? Those people over there. Right? Through no choosing of her own, our little girl will inevitably be born into a political household, a household in which her mom and I hope to live the political and moral principles we believe are right, and to prepare our daughter to someday make her own informed choices. Jolly would be welcome to run under the banner of the Independent Party, said Ernie Bach, the partys longtime chairman in Florida. You say, my name is and Im a Republican, Democrat, Independent, Green, Libertarian. Tragedy came in a split second. Support WUSF now by giving monthly, or make a one-time donation online. Wallace called out the GOP for using a sort of identity politics to created chaos. We and our partners use cookies to Store and/or access information on a device. Im attending something to overturn Citizens United. Jolly exited the GOP in 2018, a year after leaving office, and said the Republican Party has continued to devolve into the identity politics of former President Donald Trump and away from conservative tenets that attracted him. By 2018, those numbers had flipped, with most Americans now saying a third party was needed. Oh, yes, two quick questions. He believes in the partys mission enough to consider a quixotic run for U.S. Senate or governor to help grow the movement. The consent submitted will only be used for data processing originating from this website. A former Republican, he previously served as general counsel to his predecessor, Bill Young. Lately, Jolly has a lot to think about. After Dobbs: Feminism Beyond the Gender Binary, https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/05/opinion/third-party-politics-andrew-yang-david-jolly.html, Todd Heisler/The New York Times and Michael S. Schwartz/Getty Images. Before officially jumping from the GOP ship, the Pinellas County resident teamed with Jupiter Democrat Patrick Murphy, another former congressman, on a nationwide tour pushing for political common ground. Its their answer for Democrats and Republicans who arent happy with their current party. For an optimal experience visit our site on another browser. And I did not become a Libertarian because of the process of voting. And Im thrilled to be making common cause with leaders like David Jolly and Bill King and many others, whove been ahead of me on this curve and have been fighting for real political choice in our communities for years. We need to start this positive unifying third-party movement. Will people see candidates on their ballot with FWD next to their name? But what I will tell you is that state laws dont actually create a pathway towards new party movements. But I became a Libertarian because I had a major policy dispute with both major parties, specifically on civil liberties and state power and law enforcement. By entering your email and clicking Sign Up, you're agreeing to let us send you customized marketing messages about us and our advertising partners. Jolly knows this because he was named executive chairman of the Serve America Movement in March. And then that person is going to win. We know thats not the way this stuff works. It sounds like youre making a party that is focusing right now on process, not policy. I mean, my goal was to mainstream the idea of universal basic income. Show more. You now have pro-life Americans saying, maybe I was pro-Roe all along. He walked right through the front door. Those are three I mean, yeah, thats why I became a Libertarian. Conventional wisdom suggests the more partisan the two parties and our politics, the wider the lane up the middle, Muller said. So we have two microphones here, if you have questions. What do you think the approval rating is for Congress right now? There shouldnt be guilt for attracting people to your movement. David Jolly is a former Republican Congressman and executive chairman of the Serve America Movement, which merged with the Forward Party. The former Florida congressman is itching to run for public office in 2022 possibly for U.S. Senate, though governor isn't out of the question. Email us at argument@nytimes.com or leave us a voice mail message at (347) 915-4324. Fact-checking by Kate Sinclair, Michelle Harris and Mary Marge Locker. David is friends with a whole host of folks. You can learn more at tribfest.org. In the decade that has produced Republican voices like Sarah Palin, Sean Hannity and others, Trump cemented within the party a culturally lethal combination of sheer ignorance and raw indifference to responsible policy. I'm not interested in being a spoiler, Jolly said during an appearance Monday on the conservative podcast Bulwark. Part of HuffPost Politics. For an optimal experience visit our site on another browser. Instead of approaching restrictions on the right to assembly and the right to speech, they would be approaching issues around access to firearms because parents are more worried today about sending their kids to a white suburban high school than they are letting their kids participate in a Black Lives Matter protest thats the reality of where we are in the country today. So let me do a little housekeeping. Its because of the process. Jolly would come back with a statement that once again proves what many of us talk about. David Jolly slams GOP assertion that parents, kids are under attack: 'No they are not' 07:01 Students threatening lawsuit over Florida AP African American studies ban call out DeSantis admin. And thats a different approach to politics. That was an open Senate race, though. The one area that has some credence in the criticism of the new party space in America today is, what is that catalyzing issue? Self - Representative, Florida (segment "Dialing for Dollars") 2014 Your World w/Neil Cavuto (TV Series) Self . Ill let Andrew speak specifically to Forward Party. Se non vuoi che noi e i nostri partner utilizziamo i cookie e i dati personali per questi scopi aggiuntivi, clicca su "Rifiuta tutto". Every election is so important, but it does make the next presidential election so important because is that part of the Republican platform? he asked. Because he wanted to win his race. But when you talk about peoples frustration with policy, its nearly universal. These are ideological reflections not of Donald Trump's governance, but of the Republican party under today's GOP leadership. And then secondly, what about getting offices reclassified as nonpartisan? And I concluded my book saying, we need to have a positive unifying third-party movement that changes the incentives and the mechanics that right now are disproportionately empowering the most extreme hyper-partisans on both sides. Apparently no one on Rep. David Jolly's U.S. Senate campaign staff was aware of this particular reality. So . David Jolly, an MSNBC political contributor, represented Florida's 13th Congressional District in the House from 2014 to 2017. And then perhaps after were on the ballot, then you can make that choice after we start opening the system up. I talked to a school board member who said, hey, Im going to join the Forward Party on November 9. David Jolly will wed Laura Donahoe - POLITICO David Jolly slams GOP assertion that parents and kids are under attack: 'No they are not' 07:01 The GOP's shooting itself in the foot on future elections. So the fact is that there are, again, 90 percent of districts around the country where you know whos going to win anyway. Why did he do that? I conclude, what we need to do is change the incentives, like they did in Alaska, by the way, shifted to non-partisan open primaries and ranked-choice voting, which already has allowed Lisa Murkowski to survive her primary, one of the only legislators who voted to impeach Trump who is actually going to make it back. And then before you know it, well have 2,000, 5,000, 10,000 elected representatives, creating a real center of gravity so that people get rewarded for delivering results and being the kind of reasonable leaders that weve been looking for. The Argument is the production of New York Times Opinion. Is there an abortion issue? Moreover, CeCe is not the only kid in her family. And you can see it in todays Republican Party. But the single best way to help candidates rise up is to create a truly open system because right now, if you go to one of the two major parties, you know the first thing theyll ask you, how much money can you raise? Let me take the first question. Former Rep. David Jolly (R-Fla.) on Tuesday rejected the idea that theres currently a fight for the soul of the party between moderate Republicans and sycophants of ex-President Donald Trump. High-profile race for citywide Tampa council seat has seen fireworks, Tampa race has 4 candidates, including 2 council veterans, seeking open seat, Tampa man who was first to face trial for Florida voter fraud in 2020 election gets probation, Rays Tyler Glasnow sustains oblique injury during practice, Florida gun owners should be held responsible for securing their weapons | Letters, How about spending more on preventing crime? Thats a sign of how broken things are. Im actually a registered Libertarian, though Im starting to feel not very good about it. Can we have ranked-choice voting? Independents who lean towards a party also tend to back that party at the same rate as openly partisan voters. Former Rep. David Jolly (R-Fla.) on Tuesday rejected the idea that there's currently "a fight for the soul of the party" between moderate Republicans and sycophants of ex-President Donald Trump. Do you have information you want to share with HuffPost? To diehard Democrats and Republicans, they are spoilers who siphon away votes. Can we have fusion voting, all of those procedural issues? Which party is going to get 51 to 49? So youre right. David, Andrew, thank you so much for joining me. Theyll deny ranked-choice voting in Nevada because its against their own political interests. Its very, very high stakes. So you want politics to help people find common ground, which sounds great. The Democrats are actually making that case very strongly. But the years leading up to and spanning Trumps presidency saw mounting frustration with the lack of options at the ballot box. Andrew Yang and David Jolly are two of the co-founders of the Forward Party, a new political party focused on advancing election reform measures, including open primaries, independent. So were going to be growing at the local level. Se vuoi personalizzare le tue scelte, clicca su "Gestisci le impostazioni per la privacy". Heres how. How have you seen third parties influencing American democracy for the better? David Jolly (@DavidJollyFL) / Twitter MSNBC political analyst David Jolly, a former Republican congressman who is no longer affiliated with the GOP, joins Joy Reid with his analysis. Subscribe to MSNBC: http://on.msnbc.com/SubscribeTomsnbcFollow MSNBC Show Blogs MaddowBlog: https://www.msnbc.com/maddowblogReidOut Blog: https://www.msnbc.com/reidoutblogMSNBC delivers breaking news, in-depth analysis of politics headlines, as well as commentary and informed perspectives. But I can speak very generally to this, having led one of the organizations that merged into Forward, and frankly, as an excited participant in the new party space. Andrew, why a new party now? You had a Republican member of Congress, who I know, who voted to impeach Trump, got death threats. As you can tell and the thing is Jane here is actually I mean, she herself is, lets say, skeptical of the two-party system as well. So I just have a quick little blurb. In the 1848 election, you have the Free Soil Party, which is founded by anti-slavery politicians didnt win but really helped to influence the anti-slavery movement. But do we really think thats going to happen, absent this kind of movement?